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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 5, 2012 9:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Online chat with David Lemieux in 30 minutes

After watching this, I thought I'd add a few comments on things not mentioned...

I liked the chat - obviously there are limitations; for one, Lemieux is at the mercy of the questions submitted (not too many lame ones here, though) - more importantly, he will not say what is going to be released.

I'm not sure why he's so excited about 9/24/76 since I think there are several better '76 shows left... But maybe the SBD will reveal more subtleties in a rather speedy second set.

He didn't say as much about "not many complete Pigpen-era shows" as I feared - and some of that was referring to 1970 acoustic shows in particular, and some referring to shows that are just missing random reels (I know a few examples).
So actually, it didn't sound like they're avoiding early years; indeed, he said "we'll get there" & made it sound like something might come out in 2013/14.

He was asked about the 1980 acoustic/electric shows, but mentioned that at least a third of the master reels were erased randomly by the Dead (for more taping); so it may be impossible to release a complete Warfield show, but they may do a compilation sometime.
(He also mentioned the erasing of the Jan '69 Avalon reels; but that's not too crucial considering it's so close to the Fillmore West material; as we all know, the Oct '68 and April '69 Avalon shows are enough for two more great releases already.)

He said they've talked a lot about a Pigpen release over the years; if it happens, it will be a multidisc set.

He does make it sound like an Oct/Nov '72 release is due. (He particularly likes 11/15, 11/17 & 11/18.)

It also sounds like we're likely to have a 1991 release with Hornsby.

He said that in the next 30 Days of Dead in November, some tracks will be from non-circulating shows. That's intriguing... (The last two years, it was pretty well-selected stuff.)

He did mention that the Vault got a bunch of tapes back that they didn't even know existed & were very excited about, and we'll hear more about them in a few months. That sounds a lot like an upcoming release...definitely not May '77. (Maybe it's something in an area where there haven't been any soundboards, like early Aug '71 was.)

No videos in the pipeline.

They're not doing shows for download because "we've been busy."

Acid Tests - they have bits & pieces, doesn't feel like they're too releasable.

9/6/80 - no SBD in the Vault. (Many board tapes missing from '79-84.)

8/27/72 - no release in sight; he claims they've been "working on it for years" with the people who own the film, but it's a "complicated situation."

3/29/90 - was excluded from the box set for "no real reason" - apparently they put together the set in a hurry, and since they would have to negotiate the song rights with Branford Marsalis, they decided to skip it.
Promised 3/28 & 3/29 will be on a spring '90 "volume 2" box set, if they do one.

The band was filmed doing a rehearsal in London 1970 (before the Hollywood festival), he talked about watching them rehearse the Candyman vocals.

And, he tells the story about watching Garcia throw down the microphone during Black Peter in 4/3/88. And talks a bit about Dick Latvala; nothing new there.

And lastly, he mentioned that in a couple weeks they will start subscriptions for Dave's Picks vol. 5-8.
I'm thinking about it... After all, there were some 10,000 subscribers this year (w/ a limited edition of 12,000 discs), and the releases were generally solid, so the next round might get completely booked up. It would suck to miss out on some totally uncirculating show that would go to subscribers only...
Hopefully they'll do it differently, though.

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Poster: Reade Date: Oct 6, 2012 10:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Online chat with David Lemieux in 30 minutes

Re: 9/24/76
When I saw there was no soundboard of this performance on this site I figured well, there you go.......

I'd love to see Rhino sales figures for
1) Well regarded performances officially released (say Denver '73, Valentines Day '68, 5/15/70 etc.) that were known to be in circulation vs.,
2) Spiffy soundboards of perhaps lesser performances not known to be in much -or any- circulation.

(This whole show thing must be the result of a similar comparison in sales figures).

My hunch is that's the whole sotry of 9/24/76.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Oct 6, 2012 5:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Online chat with David Lemieux in 30 minutes

Lemieux has claimed that past sales figures don't affect his selections.

He also wrote to one person asking about this pick:
"The status of a show being in circulation or not has zero influence on what we release. I didn't even know this didn't circulate until a few weeks ago. Our goal is to release good music only, not fill in gaps in tape traders' collection. This show was picked 100% because it's a great show."
So that's the official line...

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Poster: Reade Date: Oct 7, 2012 8:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Online chat with David Lemieux in 30 minutes

Certainly interesting to hear the honorable Mr. Lemieux address the issue, and very specifically at that. As you say, it's the official line and as with all official lines one can take it or leave it as they see fit.
Sounds to me like he doth protest perhaps just a bit much.

There's alot of acreage between 'helping tapers fill gaps in their collections'(an absurd idea from a business perspective that no one to my mind has ever suggested is the way to go, except some of the more rabid collectors no doubt) and more obvious motives related to balance sheets and getting stuff out there that will move crisply off shelves.
And for that matter why can't it be both?' Why can't it be, 'Hey we think this is a smokin' performance that could well be very new to a lot of heads ....' There cannot be anything necessarily wrong from a business perspective with acknowledging certain realities. After all there was no delay to say the least in getting the houseboat tapes out, and from the sound of it the tapes that were recently returned will be coming out in a timely manner. As for future releases that are hypothetically in greater circulation, so what? There are no inherent contradictions to explain, there's just a different narrative to supply as rationale: 'While this performance is known to alot of heads the music here is so phenomenal, has been so highly regarded in the community for so long, it clearly called for remaster and release.......'
The 'I didn't even know until a couple of weeks ago ...' comment sounds defensive. Not something that needs to be said one way or another when you think about it.
I certainly have no beef with DL or the Dave Picks series. He actually seems a cool guy- never heard him speak prior to the live on-line chat the other day. This just has the whiff of something other than... transparency.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Oct 6, 2012 8:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Online chat with David Lemieux in 30 minutes

Was any mention made of the Dec.72' shows? That would be a great 5-show box set.

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Poster: Reade Date: Oct 6, 2012 8:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Online chat with David Lemieux in 30 minutes

No. With the question in regard to November '72 he responded by mentioning how with three Sept. '72 releases out there that "Oct.- Nov." was certainly due for a release. That's where the St. Louis Fox Theatre performances in mid-October rolled off his tongue immediately. With respect to the question he talked briefly about the Midwest shows leading up to the swing through Texas in November, and that's where he mentioned the thing about no 11/19.
December came up not at all but I hear ya.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Oct 6, 2012 10:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Online chat with David Lemieux in 30 minutes

That's a shame because there is nothing of note on any of those 3 St. Louis shows to warrant a release,any of the Nov. shows sans 11/14 and possibly 11/12 (unlistenable due to mix we have available) would be preferable.I hold out hope that down the line the powers that be would see that the Dec. run was a unique chunk of GD history with the band at it's peak and should be represented by a box set.

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Poster: billydlions Date: Oct 6, 2012 3:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Online chat with David Lemieux in 30 minutes

All 5 of the December 72 shows would have been a much better box set than spring 1990...I'd take even partial shows with cuts over 1990. Damn shame.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Oct 6, 2012 3:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Online chat with David Lemieux in 30 minutes

Well,I rarely listen to anything past 78' so I certainly don't have any interest in releases after that,but I understand they have to be open to the entire span of the bands career.What really confuses me is when they put out a weak show from the bands strong years like the first 4 Dave's Picks,I can't see what made any one of them release worthy.
-DP 1-
Promised Land was the only exceptional performance from the entire show.
-DP 2-
To Lay Me Down was the lone highlight.
-DP 3
There wasn't a single special performance from the 10/22 show,the Dark Star from the bonus disc was the only reason to listen to this release.
-DP 4-
The newest has nothing exceptional on it at all.

So I would be thrilled with a Dec. 72' box which was overflowing with brilliant versions of their more challenging material.

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